Can you not give him respect?! You do not know his life or what happened to get him into drugs, but if he is on a page like this, he is trying to help himself. Gain a little empathy.

Need we all remind you that you are not a medical professional either?

Get off this page, with your judgements and inadequate knowledge.

Clever, Jay. You neglected to answer my question… Are you a medical professional?

To me, Carolyn, the level I encourage is the best support and hope possible. What I speak of is behind “spontaneous remissions”… You know what that means, right? – A person thinks about his/her life as he/she is dying and realizes that all the judgments, hatreds, angers and fears he/she has held on to for a lifetime are nothing compared to Love, to Life, to one precious breath – no amount of money can buy Love, Life or even one more breath. Often the dying see a brilliant light, even in the dark, as they are preparing to leave… And then there are NDEs… Have you ever read about the Near-Death Experience? It jives with all the ancient texts about healing. The good news is, no one has to wait until they are dying before they let go of past thoughts, fears, etc… They can do it now and avoid the trauma, expense, pain and grief around the usual dis-ease, hospital treatment and death – They can avoid having tubes up their nose and urethra, radiation burns, surgical scars, a pharmaceutical complication… You know, Carolyn, “medical’ is not a pretty way to go; a hospital is not a home. To be treated like a body, a slab of meat is humiliating, demeaning, degrading. And Barbara Starfield’s article in JAMA – Journal of the American Medical Association – started quite a discussion about how medical care is the third leading cause of death in the US… Have you read that article? If not, you might want to.

Carolyn, are you a medical professional? Jay said HE was a drug addict, not me. You invoke a host of logical fallacies in your comment… need I list and define them? There’s a great list at Wikipedia… “Logical Fallacies”. Avoiding logical fallacies facilitates intelligent discussions.

You are right that each illness, each individual, has different life experiences and will therefore have different causes for their illness. It’s a LOT of fun to help someone discover what it was that is now manifesting as a dis-ease in their body. VERY gratifying. What I have discovered is that the disease someone suffers from stems directly from the thoughts they hold on to from the past that are no longer serving them – anger, hatred, resentment, sorrow, fear, envy, greed, and so on. Problem with dealing with the symptoms and not the root cause is that if the source of a disease is not reversed, the disease may return – even if the symptoms were temporarily removed by surgery, or suppressed by pharmaceuticals. When you change your thinking process, on the other hand, the disease will go for good – the body no longer needs to nag you to release your thought, feeling, attitude. This is information the medical profession does NOT want you to know, because if everyone simply realized the reality of their true nature and let go of the human programming, they would not be subject to sickness.

So, in short, there IS hope, darling, there IS hope and there IS support… Healing depends largely on our own open minds and open hearts and receptivity to our inner wisdom – that little nagging voice that says, “All these bells and whistles, all the unaffordable pharmaceuticals and off-the-chart expensive surgeries, all the best in bedside manners… all this isn’t working… maybe I oughta look elsewhere for help” and “Remember that time in the third grade – when Sarah stole my sandwich? Maybe I could to see that now with humor rather than rancor.” If I was sick, I’d look at the articles at GreenMedInfo – lots of good research there – or Mercola, or any number of sources – and start doing my homework. I wouldn’t just go to a doctor and say, “What’s wrong and can you fix it?” Sure, they are mostly good people, but also their education is very specific; they diagnose, prescribe, cut, burn, and treat DIS-ease. They will be slammed by the AMA and FDA if they dare do anything but that. There are very few MDs who have dared to step outside the lines, for most are slapped back into line very harshly by the medical police. Medicine is a self-regulated industry, you know… It’s a tight ship.

Thanks, Carolyn, you are helping me write my book.

Patricia, please just give up your argument. Your medical background is negligent and your views on the world are outdated, in the least. Clearlyrics it is not my internal programming that is causing the issue because you are the only person in this forum who supports your position.

To discredit your information further, we are not “deer in the forest” and therefore cannot pretend that the same ways of life will work for us. Like Jay said, this new theory sounds like one that was cooked up in a cracked out mindset as you danced around a meadow with faries.

I completely disagree that it does not matter what illness we have. It completely matters. Each illness requires a different approach and a different solution. There is no “one fix solves all”.

Please, for the betterment of society, stop giving out cockomaine medical advice to a group who need support and hope.

As a drug addict who once spent four days on a psilocybin/mescaline/DMT/ergine cocktail being guided by a lizard fish, let me tell you: you have completely lost touch with reality. You need to sit down and seriously think about the events and decisions leading up to the adoption of your current… “mindset”, Patricia, because you sound like a nut, and not just to me.

Carolyn, perhaps you misunderstood me. Any disrespect you and others have read into my words has to do with your own tone of voice. My words are neutral and helpful… if you could tune out your own programming, you would see that.

I am not a “religious” person. But I do value LIfe and honor the power that breathes me. Do you? Many pray at the point of death for “just one more breath”, while they COULD have appreciated THIS breath in THIS moment and had a much better experience of life. Each breath is a gift of love. A profound gift of profound love.

My observation has been that health is the natural condition of a body. It takes quite a bit to disconnect us from our natural health, peace of mind, creativity, lovingness. Releasing the fear we have been taught, returning to our simple loving nature… eating real food as the deer in the forest do – fruit, greens and so on… Health is a beautiful gift that is stolen from us by unwise, untoward people, places, things, and social programming. We are inundated by chemicals, negative, fearful thoughts, etc… Once I caught on to the kinds of thoughts and habits I’d learned from family, school, churches, TV, movies, etc, I actually “divorced” my programming… released all the fear that had been taught me. Worked wonders.

It matters not what ailment you have… the body does not decide to be ill, it merely reflects habits of thought, attitudes and behaviors. Sorry, but it’s true.

Patrica Robinett
You’re just a nut case…. Simple as that. The ludacris propaganda your spew forth without any real evidence apart from your own experience is just a laugh. I can’t believe you honestly think cancer can just be healed away with a hippy diet. Are u for real? U are seriously demented. I agree a healthier diet may improve some symptoms of chronic illness but is not a cure. Haha many doctors, scientists and resrchers with PhD after their name haven’t found a cure yet but some whack job hippy internet trawler has haha f**king ha. I think it’s an insult to a Christine that you post your be BS here actually. Write your book or start your own site or blog and those that want to hear your shit can follow you. Noone here has any interest in it.

I think you have the wrong idea, Patricia. While the medical system as a whole needs a reform, doctors as individuals are good people. They aim to help their patients because nobody wants to watch anot her human being suffer.

As someone who is not religious, I find it insulting that I must turn to God to heal. If you found that worked for you, I am glad. However I do not share the same beliefs that you do and I would greatly appreciate it if your views were not pushed onto me. Thank you.

Once you heal yourself, you can help others, but you cannot heal it as you mentioned earlier. You cannot assume that everyone has the same ailment as you. In the same sense, everyone’s environment different and each person responds to treatments differently. So forgive me when I say that your position is completely out of line

The body is simply a communication device, Kaylee. In an extreme example, if we are in the road and a truck comes along and we do not move out of the way, the body will eloquently tell us that we were in the wrong place at the wrong time… right? If we give our cars the wrong fuel, they don’t work well, and perhaps even die. If we think certain thoughts chronically, have certain attitudes, chronically, then they etch themselves into our faces, our posture and the functions of our bodies. Simple.

But all this is not something that ‘medicine’ wants us to know, because ultimately, we could all learn to care for our bodies and be very healthy… if we simply didn’t do things that clash with the laws of physics, nutritional laws, and the more subtle, but VERY important laws of “what you think is what you get.” In short, the thoughts that hurt our bodies are those that are less than loving, less than helpful, less than kind. Pain, fear, anger, sorrow, regret, resentment, irritability, judgment, condemnation, etc… even boredom… If we understood the laws of health, the medical industry would have to retool itself. Continuing as it has for a very long time, it is a very lucrative venture. But it depends on our ignorance – our state of ignoring – the laws of health.

Why do thoughts matter? Because our minds belong somewhere… somewhere within, in an indwelling Love, in Peace, in Joy. They do not belong in the world of alarm clocks, competition, dread, insecurity, concern, jealousy, envy, avarice, lust, wars, drama, trauma – in the roles of victim or perpetrator,.

Kaylee, I was sick. Now I am well. My body is communicating that I am doing things that work for health. If you are still sick and you want to be well. start with forgiving me… Your last line indicates you have formed quite a harsh judgment of me. Clearing the mind of its judgments will also clear the body of many problems. I am sorry if I am a bit intense but I am very sick of people hurting and being hurt. This forum is nothing compared to my work in “real life”.

I got well because I got sick of being sick. Now I want to do everything I can to end the very destructive spiral the world is in. That is my real work. I was attracted to this post because of its title. People used to say that to me. But doctors didn’t have a clue what was wrong with me. I think they now have many diagnoses that they used to not have. I lost confidence in them because no MD could figure it out. I decided that if I was going to get well, I was going to have to do it myself. “Physician, heal thyself.” Once you heal yourself, you will be able to help others. The medical system is a very sick system and it makes its adherents even sicker than they need to be because it treats them as if they are machines, not powerful spiritual beings. Every pharmaceutical drug has ‘side effects’ that then need to be ‘managed’ with more pharmaceutical drugs… It’s a dead end system. Realizing that saved my life.

Thank you Heather! As I said in a reply to Patricia above. I get healing and spirituality. I really do. I’m super compassionate too….so I sure hope and wish she would learn some real science behind these illnesses! A mutated gene cannot just un-mutate itself by thinking positively about it…..

What have you learned from having gone through years of medical treatment with no success? And so on and so forth? What you have learned is what doesn’t work. Have you listened to yourself through the years as your inner wisdom has said, “this doesn’t work”? Have you asked your inner wisdom what it would recommend? Seriously, there is part of you that knows exactly what to do. And there are many factors these days that can be affecting bodies… 1) thoughts and attitudes other than love/relaxation, 2) aluminum, barium and strontium in the air from ‘chemtrails’, 3) fluoride and other chemicals in the water, 4) pesticides, insecticides, fungicides, genetically modified organisms in the food, 5) radiation coming at us from every angle – wifi, electrical wiring, cell phone towers, and so on. Do you ever get the idea that you are like a bug in a jar that is inundated by everything toxic and poisonous? Yes, we have to go to great lengths these days to take care of these precious human bodies… and they will cooperate with us fully if we humbly ask them what we need to do to get well. Really wanting it requires really listening to nature, to our inner wisdom, to God, to whatever you want to call it… it is talking to us every moment and we are distracted from it. Try that and let me know what you learn from your Self. Your self might not know, but your Self does. 🙂

Thank you for saying that. It was my point said much more eloquently than I could muster at the time.

I love this spoon theory, and I have shared the link to it at times. It helps clarify why my daughter can do some things and not others. She simply runs out of spoons sometimes.

If you are judging and condemning yourself, perhaps that is where your cancer and osteoarthritis come from. Forgiveness is not only for others, but also for ourselves. My mother had both of those conditions; she died with the cancer, but she seemed to never mention osteoarthritis once she looked it up in Louise Hays’ little book “Heal Your Body.” Heather, I wish you the very best. Healing is possible. Some MDs have correlated cancer to loss; others to resentment… I guess someone could resent losing someone or something they love. Resentment ‘eats’ us up. The body is a communication device. It tells us if/when our thinking is chronically in fear, anger, sorrow, etc.

1) wishing ill on others is a disease in itself.

2) i am not veyr stupid. 🙂

3) if you really want something you will do whatever it takes.

4) i cannot apologize for trying to be helpful. i know very well what works. and i AM sorry we live in a very artificial world

5) i am also sorry that our medical system is not very healing… in fact, individual MDs might be wonderful people, but the system itself needs an overhaul – it has lots of bells and whistles, but it is blind in many ways… and even corrupt in some places, such as the CDC’s vaccine scandal.

Healing is always certain – If you want it??? What? If that’s the case then if I “want” you to be ill enough to understand having an incurable illness then “poof” you have one??? That’s just a stupid as your statement. It would be nice that “wanting” something could make it so.

Shame on you Patricia Robinett!!!! I think you owe everyone visiting this site an apology for spreading ignorant BS and for being so unfeeling toward their illnesses.

Brilliant ! Impressive and very helpful. Permission to share please!

I used to be sick. Wasn’t fun. Then I exchanged french fries and gravy for a big fat dark green salad with carrots and beets with lemon juice, olive oil and garlic – and I got well. Still eating french fries? Doctors believe in ‘incurable’ diseases. I don’t. I DO believe there are a lot of MDs who have no clue about radiant health… and they will never, ever ask you about your diet, because if you started eating like I do, you might end up healthy and they would lose you as a patient… $$$. I wish you all the very best of everything, including radiant health and tons of energy. Healing is always certain – if you want it.

Thanks Christine. I was diagnosed in Dec 2013 and found your spoon theory really helpful. Not only in understanding my condition but with trying to explain to others too.

WOW!!! thank you so much for this. I don’t have Lupus but do have a rare genetic disease that impacts my breathing. Like Christine some days are great, some are good and some plain suck. luckily for me the sucky days are few. Thank you for this it is fabulous.

the spoon theory works for depression too!! My sister has CFS and i am lucky to perhaps have more spoons than her – but there are some days when getting up and dressed costs all my spoons!!! keep as well as you can, and may you always have that spare spoon in your pocket xx

Hi, yes it is wonderful to here such a scenereo like the spoon theory. It is also helpful to hear someone else in the world share that they have the same illness as I do. I have Fibromyalgia also, and find it difficult most times to deal with. I also have recently been diagnosed with Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease. This too is another chronic illness that contributes to my daily pain and fatigue. My biggest concern or struggle (depending on the mood for the day) is that no one else understands what I am going through. A chronic illness, any chronic illness is a lot to deal with and support, understanding, identification, I think would make it a little easier to get through. In the past on most days I was usely a high spirited person. I now trying to adjust to my illnesses and regain a good spirit no matter what. Thank you all for your comments. They really help.

Hey Christine – Can I post The Spoon Theory on my blog? I will put that it was written by you and link back to your website. My blog is jodibeansblog.com
Thanks

Talia –
It is wonderful to have such a concrete way to talk about what it’s like – and especially to people you know care but just have no way to grasp your experience.

One thought about “healthy people,” though –
Back in the ’70s, feminists helped make us all more conscious about disability by introducing the term “temporarily-abled” to refer to ourselves in our wellness. It was a rather shocking term: it reminded us daily that our “abled-ness” was only fleeting, even at best – especially at best, that if we lived long enough, we all would begin to lose our faculties, sometimes dramatically, through becoming “dis-eased” in some way, sometimes inexorably with the passage of time, as we began to need glasses to see clearly, more rest in order to stay up late, or younger, stronger hands and backs to help us open jars or carry heavy boxes or, eventually, bags of groceries. These changes come at different ages and rates for different people, but come they would.

Yes, there are “healthy” people in the world, and their energy, dexterity, mobility, and stamina are astounding to those of us with serious physical – and emotional – challenges. And it’s very interesting and informative to step back from our own struggles to see the challenges – often unseen – that those around us are working with as well.

Best wishes to you always on you particular and very challenging path!

I just realized it says songs instead of spoons