I have the same problem. When i was in PT i'd spasm so badly i'd start screaming and would have to be released and stretched....but because of the hypermobility the stretching didn't work.

My CMP only feels better when i'm not putting weight on my joints...ie: when i'm laying down or in a comfy chair tilted slightly back that fits me well.

My doc told me my muscles work so hard to keep my joints in...that they no longer know how to relax. It never stops...because the few times i've been relaxed completely...i've had to get up and it comes right back.

My muscles don't seem to push my joints out...i also have hypotonia from the EDS...so it's just joints slipping around for me!

thanks for the post. Yea i figure there had to be people with the same problem lol. I am never relaxed especially with the dysautnomia and increased adrealine or wutever. My PT tells me all the time to try and relax my muscle, plus i just wonder if sometimes he makes it worse on my muscles sometimes. Its really hard to keep what he's released that way for very long like you said. Its like once i get in the car its all ruined. At the same time I notice that I get real bad if I don't go to physical therapy at all so I have to go. My mom is a nurse studying to get her MA and she just told me that in her class she learned that with Fibro and CMP that the longer your muscles are tight the more Lactic acid there will be- some kind of metabolism biochemical. I felt like saying to her 'so your saying those of us with EDS are basically stuck.' Actually i was thinking a far more taboo word, but yea its frustrating and just plain sucks. Plus i'm not sleeping well or maybe havn't in 7 yrs so i'm sure that doesn't help either.

Like you say I only also feel relaxed only when laying in bed with my head supported or in a chair but sometimes if i don't move i'll get to stiff and then tere goes the joints.